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Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 85	Posted - 2011.12.18 12:28:00 - [1] - Quote Dear CCP We were having a chat in corp the other day and the topic of numbers came up Militia Caldari 7444 Minmitar 5387 Amarr 4576 Gallente 5730 Total 23137 Top 4 alliances Shadow of xXDeathXx 8019 Goonswarm Federation 6928 Test Alliance Please Ignore 4746 Intrepid Crossing 3235 Total 22928 So I'll just leave these numbers for someone for CCP to comment on and to explain why FW is still ignored and after it constantly rating as something that need fixing and being mentioned by Hilmar as one of the feature fixes for Crucible, we got 1 fix to plexing which has been asked for for years... P.S. I don't want to hear about the minnies claiming we blob them since you have more numbers!!!! Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 85	Posted - 2011.12.18 12:40:00 - [2] - Quote Schnoo wrote: The FW numbers are wrong (in order of magnitudes). I don't think real participants in FW PVP are even 10% of that, many being inactive (unsubbed), alts, spying alts, tax evaders, FW mission runners. Oh and a week long experience in FW tells me there are more Minmatar than Amarr players, data, right? Right - because the amount of botters in shadow of death are all real. And there aren't spies in null sec alliances. Or miners... Or people who rat/plex in some obscure systems... Or people who are in the alliance and just live in high sec... Quote: Oh and a week long experience in FW tells me there are more Minmatar than Amarr players Quote: Minmitar 5387 Amarr 4576 Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 85	Posted - 2011.12.18 13:01:00 - [3] - Quote Right - because FW isn't cyclical. Didn't Caldari push the Gallente all the way back home and then give up because they were bored??? And doesn't larger null sec alliances get beat up by smaller ones sometimes??? The point was the number of people in faction warfare compared to the top 4 alliances... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 86	Posted - 2011.12.19 02:26:00 - [4] - Quote Anyone taking bets on if CCP will respond to this during the day??? I'm guessing no personally... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 86	Posted - 2011.12.19 02:49:00 - [5] - Quote Brock Nelson wrote: Har Harrison wrote: Anyone taking bets on if CCP will respond to this during the day??? I'm guessing no personally... Uhh...its the weekend dude. I don't know what planet you're from but here on Earth, most people work during the week. I believe it is midday where I am, and very early in the morning Eve time. Now considering I said during the day (bolded that part for you to be 100% clear), that would mean TODAY (19th). When they get to work. You know, since Iceland is like coming up on 3am now. For the purposes of this conversation, I will assume since you think it is still the weekend, you are in the US and just leave it at that since of course the whole world revolves around the US... Enough said!!! Oh yeah, it is also the case that we NEVER see the decs pop in to say hi during the weekend or the middle of the night amirite??? Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 86	Posted - 2011.12.19 05:41:00 - [6] - Quote Brock Nelson wrote: Har Harrison wrote: Brock Nelson wrote: Har Harrison wrote: Anyone taking bets on if CCP will respond to this during the day??? I'm guessing no personally... Uhh...its the weekend dude. I don't know what planet you're from but here on Earth, most people work during the week. I believe it is midday where I am, and very early in the morning Eve time. Now considering I said during the day (bolded that part for you to be 100% clear), that would mean TODAY (19th). When they get to work. You know, since Iceland is like coming up on 3am now. For the purposes of this conversation, I will assume since you think it is still the weekend, you are in the US and just leave it at that since of course the whole world revolves around the US... Enough said!!! Oh yeah, it is also the case that we NEVER see the decs pop in to say hi during the weekend or the middle of the night amirite??? Oh sorry you think I'm from the US Oh sorry you think that everyone's work day starts at 3am monday morning Oh sorry you think that devs popping in on weekends to say hi is actually working I mean after all, they don't play this game amirite??? Sigh. Let me explain ONE MORE TIME for the troll... You said it was still the weekend. That implies it is still sunday unless you are in the middle of the Atlantic... Ergo you would have to be based in the US. Otherwise it is MONDAY and it is NOT the weekend anymore, even if someone is still asleep. I NEVER said their day starts at 3am. I said it was 3am on a WORK DAY and as such I said *Anyone taking bets on if CCP will respond to this during the day???* See how that works??? If CCP will respond during the day is FUTURE tense - i.e. later in the day, it being the 19th (Monday!!!). And I said that devs DO respond out of business hours - which IS working if they are representing CCP (by using their CCP accounts vs an anonymous pilot). Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 86	Posted - 2011.12.19 07:00:00 - [7] - Quote Really? The game boots you from an alliance? I always thought it was the corps that did that. Well, I guess that is ME informed!!! And I'm pretty sure I know the difference Delboy. I just got to Brock being American due to his comments... A Canadian wouldn't be that quick to jump in and start ripping into me without first reading and comprehending what was said... BTW - I AM aware it is Monday in the Atlantic NOW... When I posted it was 3am eve time. That would be GMT -3, which puts some of the atlantic in monday and some in sunday... My comment still stands - DURING the day, which was posted on a Monday server and iceland time... And yes - if I go to sleep on a sunday, it ALWAYS becomes Monday for me regardless. The earth doesn't stop revolving when I am asleep... I never said it happened WHEN someone went to bed (you did). I said it happened while they were IN BED... Duh!!! Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 88	Posted - 2011.12.21 02:09:00 - [8] - Quote Regardless of if they are active or not, that is amount that the game reports, same as that is the amount that the game reports when you view alliance rankings. Whether they are active accounts or not is impossible to determine... What it does show is that alot of people have come to look at FW and never left it, even if they left eve. Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 88	Posted - 2011.12.21 02:29:00 - [9] - Quote Stealing some more numbers from here - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48705&find=unread Basically they show that FW DOES have similar kill and ISK kill numbers to 0.0. Figures repeated below. Total Kills Gallente 2842 (9) Minmatar 2738 (9) Amarr 2495 (11) Caldari 1657 Gallente+Minmatar : 5580 (1) Amarr+Caldari : 4152 (4) All Militias : 9732 (1) ISK Gallente: 320B isk Minmatar: 199B isk Amarr: 231B isk Caldari: 126B isk All Militias: 876B Gallente+Minmatar: 519B 1 Goonswarm: 420B 2 AAA: 467B 3 NCDot. 598B Amarr + Caldari: 375B 4 White Noise: 232B 5 Test: 379B 6 RvB Red: 80B 7 RvB Blue: 67B 8 Hydra Reloaded: 271B Gallente: 320B Minmatar: 199B 9 PL: 491B 10 Red Alliance: 268B Amarr 231B Caldari: 126B Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 88	Posted - 2011.12.21 02:41:00 - [10] - Quote Cipher Jones wrote: Quote: More interesting numbers would be the amount of players who have had at least 1 kill in the previous week. And also irrelevant. Noting your incredible bias as you ask for the number of kills of FW players but not null players. I got Yar Nor on the weekend - does that count??? Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 88	Posted - 2011.12.21 05:52:00 - [11] - Quote Sano Hekki wrote: Har Harrison wrote: Stealing some more numbers from here - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48705&find=unread Basically they show that FW DOES have similar kill and ISK kill numbers to 0.0. Figures repeated below. How are the kill similar ? The top two 0.0 alliances on eve-kill for the month have more kills than all the militia's combined, if you add up the rest in the top 20 you are looking at 5x the amount of the militia's. I Rank Goonswarm Federation 5493 Against All Authorities 4630 Combine the "allied" militias and they are ball park. Add ALL militias and they are higher (yes, you could add the alliances togetther that for CFC etc...). The point is, FW has a lot of peope signed up, has a lot of kills and they total a lot of isk and CCP don't give it the love it needs. If it was properly loved, how much higher would these numbers be??? Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 88	Posted - 2011.12.23 03:33:00 - [12] - Quote No comment CCP? Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 88	Posted - 2011.12.23 11:17:00 - [13] - Quote Kelsi Corynn wrote: I've never been a fan of having a realm versus realm PVP system in EVE (faction warfare). Why? It generates PVP based on an arbitrary IP-related choice, rather than the conflicts emerging entirely from players' own whims/acts/egos. It's PVP on rails. RVR has a solid place in MMOs that are more focused on instant gratification, but if the focus of EVE player conflict starts revolving around factions, that would be get dull fast in my opinion. So have you actually partaken in FW??? FW is currently ENTIRELY player driven based around the concept of flying under one of the 4 empires. That isn't really any different to 0.0 players forging a story under the banner of their alliance... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 88	Posted - 2011.12.23 23:42:00 - [14] - Quote All I want for Xmas is for CCP Unifex to come and tell us what they are doing to fix FW!!! Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 115	Posted - 2012.01.03 03:35:00 - [15] - Quote Didn't get my Xmas present... Suggest a New Years resolution for CCP - engage the FW commuity and tell us what you are doing to fix FW. That way we can make sure it is done right!!! Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 115	Posted - 2012.01.03 05:47:00 - [16] - Quote beor oranes wrote: Just a suggestion but why don't you post in the Features and Idea's section on how you would like Faction Warfare to be fixed and try and get some support for it, that way CCP might actually pay some more attention to your whining. Just shouting 'FIX FACTION WARFARE CCP' really isn't being constructive, its called being a five year old. FYI there is already a number of threads on these. The last I saw from CCP being involved with them was Soundwave theorising that they could remove the navies from high sec. So I'm concentrating on making some noise that might get CCP to come look at FW. Once they actually start talking to us, then we can discuss the ideas... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution 115	Posted - 2012.01.03 07:55:00 - [17] - Quote rodyas wrote: Well I looked at the numbers and actually null sec was nerfed. So with your expectations FW would be nerfed actually not made better. I really dont know where you are coming from or so. Null sec has been ignored at best really. FW shouldnt even be showing its head right now since an axe would most likely fall on it, then angel kisses. Funny guy. FW hasn't been touched since it was released bar adding a few things to the LP store and some work on the plex respawn system. Null has had many things done to it. Stations, moon mining, sov, supers etc... Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!!

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